Are buyers negotiating more in Tokyo after 97 days?

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sailsAndQuill

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A 97-day listing period looks negotiable at first glance. My concern is that it may be hiding relisted or withdrawn stock rather than genuine seller flexibility.

I’m looking at detached Tokyo homes between ¥111,400,000 and ¥167,100,000. Condition varies considerably, and homes with unresolved rental-regulation questions may attract a different buyer pool. Before deciding how hard to bid, I’d like to compare nearby completed sales with the full asking-price history. Has anyone seen recent examples where a similar home completed well below its last public price, or where the seller held firm despite a long campaign?
 
Ninety-seven days by itself would not make me assume a discount. A listing may have been withdrawn, relisted or left at an aspirational price while the seller waits. I’d compare completed sales and new-listing volume within the same small area, then look at when any price cuts occurred. A long stale period after a cut says more than 97 unchanged days.
 
Which neighbourhoods are you grouping together, and how similar are the homes in age, land size and condition? Even crossing a neighbourhood boundary can change the relevant buyer pool. At these prices, a newer move-in-ready house and one needing substantial work could show the same marketing time for completely different reasons.
 
I’d also separate intended owner-occupation from rental use. The regulatory point may matter greatly to an investment-minded buyer but much less to someone buying a primary home. Otherwise you risk treating uncertainty about permitted use as general weakness in the detached-home market.
 
One practical approach is to track each candidate in a simple table: first observed asking price, dates and amounts of reductions, any disappearance and return, condition, precise area, and whether it eventually completes or is withdrawn. Public asking history alone cannot establish the accepted price, but it can stop a relisting from looking like fresh stock.
 
I partly disagree that asking history is only secondary. It can reveal seller motivation. Two homes may both reach 97 days, but a seller who cut early and again recently is signalling something different from one who has held firm throughout. Of course, that still doesn’t tell you the final discount or whether the seller will accept your number.
 
Buyer financing could also distort the comparison. A lower offer with straightforward funding and a workable timetable may be more attractive than a higher but uncertain offer. Before choosing a discount percentage, find out what matters to the seller: price, timing, conditions, or certainty. That conversation may produce more leverage than days on market alone.
 
The point about neighbourhood and condition is important. For any completed example, I’d want at least the approximate location, property condition, original and last asking prices, marketing timeline, and whether the final figure is actually confirmed rather than inferred from a vanished listing. Without those details, one dramatic discount could be misleading.
 
So far I wouldn’t treat 97 days as evidence that Tokyo buyers generally have more negotiating power. It is better used as a prompt to investigate: check for earlier listings, map price cuts, distinguish withdrawals from sales, compare only nearby homes of similar condition, and ask about seller priorities. If those factors also point to weakness, a below-ask bid has a stronger basis than the day count alone.
 
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